Both Manchester teams’ problems tallies have jumped up since GW12 last season although neither will also be ranked as necessarily probably the most stepped ahead side of 2017/18 up to now.
City have stormed to a commanding lead inside the Premier League table, while United are their closest competition inside the chasing pack.
At the other end of the scale, Everton are enduring a rapid decline as they are trying to to to find the web, with Crystal Palace moreover suffering at the bottom.
But how does your team assessment to this time last season?
CLICK THROUGH THE GALLERY TO REVEAL EVERY TEAM’S POINTS COMPARED TO LAST SEASON AFTER GW12.